I've seen several people posting online that since Adam Lambert has grown a beard and longer hair he "looks like Jesus." That's a peculiar assertion.
Jesus lived 2,000 years ago in the Middle East. He almost certainly looked like what modern day Arabs look like: black, culy hair, dark eyes, olive skin, short stature. Yes, he likely had long hair and a beard -- but that doesn't mean that everyone who has long hair and a beard looks like Jesus.
Adam is 6'1", has blue eyes & straight hair. Tho he often dies his hair black, it's really a lighter color. Moreover, even though he is Jewish, his features are generally northern European. He most certainly does *not* look like Jesus.
There's a famous painting often referred to as the "beauty parlor Jesus" There is this desire to see Jesus as being pretty.
This painting features a Jesus with slightly wavy light brown or ash blond hair -- plainly northern European. A lot of people do not notice this inconsistency. Actually, if you look at Renaissance Italian paintings of Jesus, they also depict him with much lighter hair than he would really have had.
Some researchers are claiming that there are geometrical differences between the faces of gay and straight men https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-41188560
Personally, I feel that Adam has what I would call an "angel face," and yes I think a lot of gay men have that. I wonder if that type of face is more likely to register as divine for some people, maybe most people. I wonder why that would be.
I started wondering whether the model for the beauty parlor Jesus might have been gay, but apparently the painter said he painted from a vision, not from a model -- so maybe not -- but maybe so, as one doesn't know what the subconscious is inspired by.
Saturday, May 11, 2019
Monday, March 18, 2019
Does one buy -- or listen to -- MJ's work now?
Some people think they should boycott MJ's work, because of the allegations aired on the HBO special.
Of course, there are a substantial number of fans who think that the allegations are fabricated
link to fan blog purporting to refute the allegations
I cannot say for sure whether they were fabricated or not. I wasn't there.
Also, being from a family where it was conclusively demonstrated to me that my ex's recollections of child abuse were false memories, I wonder whether these men had false memories implanted by a therapist. Many people think that there is no such thing as false memories, or that false memory allegations are made by parents to hide their wrongdoing. I am persuaded that they do exist.
But let us suppose for a moment that the allegations are true.
This issue arose for me a couple of times before with novels.
The first time it arose is when I bought the book "Sees Behind Trees" by Michael Dorris. At the time I bought this book, the author had already committed suicide due to allegations of sexual abuse of children. I knew of him, because he had been affiliated with my college. Yet, I was curious about the book.
I bought it and I loved it.
It never really occurred to me not to buy the book because the author had done something bad. The man is dead. He's not going to get any money out of it.
Dorris, like MJ, did a lot of charitable work for kids. Dorris's work was particularly with respect to fetal alcohol syndrome. He was inspired to this work after he adopted a Native American kid who had this syndrome. Yet, his interest in charity work for children led to his unfortunately being in a position to abuse children. He was never found guilty of this, because he committed suicide before there could be any consideration in court. Many people assumed that his suicide was an admission of guilt, though he apparently maintained his innocence at the end.
Here's a wikipedia article about him
wikipedia article about michael dorris
The issue arose a second time with respect to Marion Zimmer Bradley, who wrote a much more famous series of novels called "Darkover." I read a lot of these novels and loved them. They were actually all purchased by my ex -- and he took them with him when he moved out -- got custody, as it were. So really these books are in my past. I think I read all or most of them. I'm not seeking to buy more. Yet, if you ask me what my favorite superpower would be, it would be that of Hawkmistress -- to commune with the minds of birds. That was a character out of one of Bradleys' novels. That's a question that is often asked as interesting trivia when people are interviewed.
Recently, many years after reading these novels, I learned that Bradley had been accused of abusing her children. The person who told me about this said that she could never read or purchase Bradley's novels, because of this allegation.
This made absolutely no sense to me. Bradley is now deceased. Any money that would come from the purchase of those novels would go to the children who were abused, not to her. Boycotting the work would hurt the kids who were abused. The same would be true of Dorris.
The two situations are not analogous.
In Bradley's and Dorris's cases, the amount going to their children would be relatively modest. In Jackson's case, the amount of money going to his family is huge -- and perhaps they don't need more. Moreover, it is widely assumed that Katherine Jackson's share of the money will go to Jackson's siblings -- and many fans see them as moochers. Though now they really do seem to be working for a living, which is a pleasant change.
In Jackson's case, there has been no allegation that he abused his own children. Of course, the Jacksons are very private people and any such allegation would likely not be made public -- or at least not yet. On the other hand, his children are and have been subjected to ongoing abuse from the public because of the celebrity and notoriety of their father. They need security to protect themselves both from fans and from haters. They need therapy to deal with the constant wild allegations -- many of them utter fabrications that are constantly hurled around about their father -- not to mention his untimely death. That abuse of the family by the public is, in my opinion, a reason to feel concern for them, despite their apparent wealth -- and despite their apparent ability to book work in the entertainment industry due to their fame.
I conclude that, even if the allegations were to be proven true, I would not stop listening to Michael Jackson. I don't think I'll necessarily buy any more of his records. I've got several. The newer ones I haven't liked as much. Moreover, I went once to the Cirque du Soleil tour about him. It was interesting and well done, but none of those performers had Jackson's charisma. Ultimately, it was good, but not so exciting that I would go again.
I may still go to see his brothers perform. I know they're not as exciting without him, but I still would like to support them. I was really moved by a YouTube video of Evgeni Plushenko dancing with the Jacksons. Here are the brothers, performing without their lost brother, along with the magnificent figure skating and dancing of a famous fan to accent their work.
Plushenko and the Jacksons
I found this moving because of the enduring power of MJ's art to inspire people throughout the world, which is of course why I started the #QuixoticQuest.
I can only hope that the controversy would stimulate more people to learn about MJ -- and his quest to Heal the World.
Of course, there are a substantial number of fans who think that the allegations are fabricated
link to fan blog purporting to refute the allegations
I cannot say for sure whether they were fabricated or not. I wasn't there.
Also, being from a family where it was conclusively demonstrated to me that my ex's recollections of child abuse were false memories, I wonder whether these men had false memories implanted by a therapist. Many people think that there is no such thing as false memories, or that false memory allegations are made by parents to hide their wrongdoing. I am persuaded that they do exist.
But let us suppose for a moment that the allegations are true.
This issue arose for me a couple of times before with novels.
The first time it arose is when I bought the book "Sees Behind Trees" by Michael Dorris. At the time I bought this book, the author had already committed suicide due to allegations of sexual abuse of children. I knew of him, because he had been affiliated with my college. Yet, I was curious about the book.
I bought it and I loved it.
It never really occurred to me not to buy the book because the author had done something bad. The man is dead. He's not going to get any money out of it.
Dorris, like MJ, did a lot of charitable work for kids. Dorris's work was particularly with respect to fetal alcohol syndrome. He was inspired to this work after he adopted a Native American kid who had this syndrome. Yet, his interest in charity work for children led to his unfortunately being in a position to abuse children. He was never found guilty of this, because he committed suicide before there could be any consideration in court. Many people assumed that his suicide was an admission of guilt, though he apparently maintained his innocence at the end.
Here's a wikipedia article about him
wikipedia article about michael dorris
The issue arose a second time with respect to Marion Zimmer Bradley, who wrote a much more famous series of novels called "Darkover." I read a lot of these novels and loved them. They were actually all purchased by my ex -- and he took them with him when he moved out -- got custody, as it were. So really these books are in my past. I think I read all or most of them. I'm not seeking to buy more. Yet, if you ask me what my favorite superpower would be, it would be that of Hawkmistress -- to commune with the minds of birds. That was a character out of one of Bradleys' novels. That's a question that is often asked as interesting trivia when people are interviewed.
Recently, many years after reading these novels, I learned that Bradley had been accused of abusing her children. The person who told me about this said that she could never read or purchase Bradley's novels, because of this allegation.
This made absolutely no sense to me. Bradley is now deceased. Any money that would come from the purchase of those novels would go to the children who were abused, not to her. Boycotting the work would hurt the kids who were abused. The same would be true of Dorris.
The two situations are not analogous.
In Bradley's and Dorris's cases, the amount going to their children would be relatively modest. In Jackson's case, the amount of money going to his family is huge -- and perhaps they don't need more. Moreover, it is widely assumed that Katherine Jackson's share of the money will go to Jackson's siblings -- and many fans see them as moochers. Though now they really do seem to be working for a living, which is a pleasant change.
In Jackson's case, there has been no allegation that he abused his own children. Of course, the Jacksons are very private people and any such allegation would likely not be made public -- or at least not yet. On the other hand, his children are and have been subjected to ongoing abuse from the public because of the celebrity and notoriety of their father. They need security to protect themselves both from fans and from haters. They need therapy to deal with the constant wild allegations -- many of them utter fabrications that are constantly hurled around about their father -- not to mention his untimely death. That abuse of the family by the public is, in my opinion, a reason to feel concern for them, despite their apparent wealth -- and despite their apparent ability to book work in the entertainment industry due to their fame.
I conclude that, even if the allegations were to be proven true, I would not stop listening to Michael Jackson. I don't think I'll necessarily buy any more of his records. I've got several. The newer ones I haven't liked as much. Moreover, I went once to the Cirque du Soleil tour about him. It was interesting and well done, but none of those performers had Jackson's charisma. Ultimately, it was good, but not so exciting that I would go again.
I may still go to see his brothers perform. I know they're not as exciting without him, but I still would like to support them. I was really moved by a YouTube video of Evgeni Plushenko dancing with the Jacksons. Here are the brothers, performing without their lost brother, along with the magnificent figure skating and dancing of a famous fan to accent their work.
Plushenko and the Jacksons
I found this moving because of the enduring power of MJ's art to inspire people throughout the world, which is of course why I started the #QuixoticQuest.
I can only hope that the controversy would stimulate more people to learn about MJ -- and his quest to Heal the World.
Wednesday, February 27, 2019
Drifting from @joshgroban to @adamlambert
So, am I really doing this? Am I really becoming a Glambert and stopping being a Grobanite?
I’m telling myself I don’t actually like “Feel Something”, but then I’m listening to it over and over and I do like the new video. I find Adam hypnotic.
Perhaps I did at first with Josh. More recently I’ve been horribly frustrated with audio issues at his concerts — and vocal issues: as Josh struggled with what I think is a gradually deepening voice, which he doesn’t quite recognize is changing. He tries to belt those high notes that he really can only sing well in head tone now, though he could sing them without head tone twenty years ago. He’s doing much better with a new voice coach, but sometimes I still hear it.
I drifted to Josh after being obsessed with Michael Jackson for about six months. I told myself I wanted to hear someone with a lower voice — and also someone who is alive. But maybe a higher voice is starting to call me again. Certainly there are no issues with Adam sounding strained on his high notes as Josh sometimes does.
When Adam first competed on American Idol, I didn’t listen. I guess I heard a little bit and decided that it was the type of rock that I don’t like — or at least didn’t like back then.
I’m thinking that perhaps my taste in music is changing. After years of just turning popular music off, because I hated rough singing and crudely strummed guitars that sounded non-linear, I’ve maybe started to have a greater appreciation for emotion in singing. Also, maybe loud strumming at the hands of a master like Brian May is different from what normally appears in popular music. In any case, Adam is not, for the most part, a rough singer.
Well, I’ve bought tix for arena concerts this summer for both Josh and Queen. We’ll see what happens.
I’ve always been irresistibly drawn to gay and depressed men. Josh is depressed, but Adam is both. I’m not applauding the fact that I have this type of attraction. It’s a type of “Q” I think, but it’s something I don’t really accept about myself.
Creative types have to be depressed, because depression and creativity are closely linked neurological processes. Maybe the reader will enjoy the articles produced by this google search link between creativity and mental illness Also, I suspect that a person cannot muster the drama necessary to be an international celebrity performer unless they have some pretty serious mental health issues. The drama has to come from somewhere.
So my attraction to depression is part of why I get celebrity obsessions. Josh through his stories about fulfillment through the arts -- helped me discover, as well, that part of the obsession is my own desire to perform. It's been a while since I put up a youtube video under this pseudonym. I should.
It’s interesting that both of these guys have mixed Jewish and Protestant ancestries as I do. That also makes me feel connected. Curiously, Adam’s life story is strangely similar to Josh’s, in terms of having pursued performance related education throughout his childhood.
And, yes, as I did with Josh, I’m composing a fan fiction novel to try to get obsessive, disturbing fantasies about Adam out of my head. If I finish this novel, it will be my fourth of this genre, under a different pseudonym. I wonder if this time I’ll actually put Adam’s real name in it, as opposed to using a fake name to hide the identity of who I was fantasizing about. Fan fiction seems to be more accepted now. Maybe it’s ok.
And then there’s this odd thing. At first, part of what drew me in to Josh at the beginning was this growing realization that he was reading my tweets — and those of other fans — surreptitiously. I don’t think that’s true any more. He’s trying to get away from twitter. It makes him seem less immediate, I guess. Before, I felt that I was almost getting to know him.
Recently, I tweeted to Adam a question about why his earrings don’t change much with his different outfits. I tweeted this question after looking at many, many photos and videos, where the earrings were mostly the same. Then, immediately, I see photos and videos where the earrings are totally different. Coincidence? Maybe. Then, again, maybe not.
I guess that sense of contact is intriguing — different from my view of celebrities as impossibly distant.
****
I even made a graphic for Adam, the way I used to do for Josh.
Tuesday, February 12, 2019
@joshgroban Fandango Event 2/12/19 -- Fire and Ice
It started out with my friend, Night Owl, telling me she couldn't come with me, because she had the flu.
Then there was the wintry mix weather -- not really safe. I sort of wondered whether it was worth going to see a movie of a concert that I attended, when it might mean risking my life.
I borrowed my son's Subaru, because it has all wheel drive. I was forced to confess to him that I mistakenly threw out the key that he made for me for the car, so I had to take his key.
I had to shovel the driveway when sleet was still falling, because I wanted to get to the theater.
As I wanted in, I mentioned to one of the theater personnel there that I smelled smoke. She replied "I Know." I walked on in. I figured it was nothing serious.
I got there about five minutes late, so I missed the first song.
This was at the City Center in White Plains, NY. There were actually only about 10 people at this venue -- probably because of the bad weather.
I got to see "You Are Loved." It was magical. The sound was perfect. I could see and hear Tarikh and Andre singing. Josh's voice sounded perfect. The packed arena looked like fairyland. There was no chance that I would be seen, way up in the nose bleed seats, but at least I got to see the arena from the stage.
If you've been following this blog, you know that I've made a point of documenting sound problems -- usually too loud, or frequency distortion -- in Josh's concerts. This was just the opposite. Perfect sound, with the wonderful speakers of the theater.
Then the screen went black and they told us we had to go out, because there was a fire.
As we walked out, I could smell that the smoke was worse.
They had us wait in the Atrium of the Mall. After a while, they said they were not re-opening the theater. The fire was not in a trash can, as one of my fellow concert goers had optimistically hoped, but rather in the wall of the theater -- wiring perhaps. For a while, the Shoprite below the theater was closed as well, but they reopened that later. I got some passes for a later event, tho, obviously it wasn't going to be this event.
So frustrated.
Then there was the wintry mix weather -- not really safe. I sort of wondered whether it was worth going to see a movie of a concert that I attended, when it might mean risking my life.
I borrowed my son's Subaru, because it has all wheel drive. I was forced to confess to him that I mistakenly threw out the key that he made for me for the car, so I had to take his key.
I had to shovel the driveway when sleet was still falling, because I wanted to get to the theater.
As I wanted in, I mentioned to one of the theater personnel there that I smelled smoke. She replied "I Know." I walked on in. I figured it was nothing serious.
I got there about five minutes late, so I missed the first song.
This was at the City Center in White Plains, NY. There were actually only about 10 people at this venue -- probably because of the bad weather.
I got to see "You Are Loved." It was magical. The sound was perfect. I could see and hear Tarikh and Andre singing. Josh's voice sounded perfect. The packed arena looked like fairyland. There was no chance that I would be seen, way up in the nose bleed seats, but at least I got to see the arena from the stage.
If you've been following this blog, you know that I've made a point of documenting sound problems -- usually too loud, or frequency distortion -- in Josh's concerts. This was just the opposite. Perfect sound, with the wonderful speakers of the theater.
Then the screen went black and they told us we had to go out, because there was a fire.
As we walked out, I could smell that the smoke was worse.
They had us wait in the Atrium of the Mall. After a while, they said they were not re-opening the theater. The fire was not in a trash can, as one of my fellow concert goers had optimistically hoped, but rather in the wall of the theater -- wiring perhaps. For a while, the Shoprite below the theater was closed as well, but they reopened that later. I got some passes for a later event, tho, obviously it wasn't going to be this event.
So frustrated.
Saturday, December 22, 2018
@PTXofficial @BeaconTheater 12/18/18
On December 18, I went to see Pentatonix at The Beacon theater.
This was with some trepidation. I'd been there three times before. Twice the volume was way too high.
Once was when I went to see Il Volo, a classical group that you wouldn't have expected to blast out their audience's ears. The Beacon isn't that big of a theater. Traditional acoustic instruments should be able to fill it without amplification. Violins, for instance, are really loud instruments. Classically trained singers also shouldn't need amplification, or only very slight amplification
The other loud time was Cyndi Lauper's Home for the Holidays charity concert. Now, at that concert, they had some rock and metal performers, so loud might have been expected, but they were loud when Josh Groban performed. Josh debuted a new song at that concert. Unfortunately, not only was the amplification too loud, but it was also distorted, so that the words of Josh's song were incomprehensible.
The third time was when I went to a full Josh Groban concert. That time it was not too loud, but the first half of the concert had distorted acoustics that ruined the beautiful sound of Josh's voice. Fortunately, they fixed it after intermission, but only after torturing us for the first half
So I had concerns about hearing Pentatonix there.
Fortunately, I'm pleased to report that the sound was loud, but not so loud that I needed ear plugs, unlike Il Volo. I found out that the Beacon stocks ear plugs at the customer service desk. I try to have ear plugs with me at all times, but it's a pity to pay money to hear a live concert and then have to wear ear plugs.
Unfortunately, I wished I had brought sun glasses because they kept shining bright lights directly into my eyes, which was very painful. Why do you do these things to your audience Beacon? Why don't you adjust the angle so it's above the audience. Granted I was near the top of the balcony, but I didn't pay money to have you hurt my eyes.
My historic experience with popular music has always been that it's unpleasant. YouTube has given me hope that I can find music that I like. A cappella groups have been good for me at least on YouTube. Some of the most annoying instrumental sounds are absent.
It was interesting comparing the live sound with the YouTube sound. Some of the performers sounded better. Others sounded worse.
Kirstin was notable in sounding incredibly good live, while less remarkable on YouTube. I've always felt that recording and amplification systems tend to discriminate against women's voices. This was a case in point. She was also a real trooper, performing with a leg that was broken and only recently out of a cast. She sounded fantastic anyway.
Another standout was Matt. I have a hard time hearing him on YouTube. Live, with the bass turned up, he became much more audible. When he was singing harmony, I could feel his notes resonating in my sternum. I liked it. When he sang solos, his voice was exquisite. I don't think he's as deep a bass as Avi was, but his low baritone range is delicious, whereas Avi's voice is uninteresting at the higher notes.
Kevin, I felt, was under amplified. This was particularly noticeable when he did his remarkable solo with simultaneous cello and beat boxing. I could hear the cello, but had a hard time hearing the beat boxing. When he's played cello on line, he's used an acoustic cello. This time he used an electric cello. The electric cello was over amplified and distorted. I didn't like it. The acoustic versions on line are better.
Scott was underamplified. I had difficulty hearing his solos. It sounded like his voice was rougher in a live performance than it was online. Also, I couldn't help but noticing what remarkably skinny legs he has.
Mitch was a bit of a disappointment live. His soaring countertenor solos online are quite impressive, but less so in person. He hit all the notes, but somehow his tone didn't seem as good.
Overall, though, they did a good job, They kept it together and had a good sense of rhythm. The amplification of Matt's bass really helped give texture to the music.
They did one song without mics. It was quieter than the other songs, but it sounded lovely, because, after all, The Beacon is an old theater with good acoustics and amplification isn't all that necessary, except for the beat boxing, which they didn't try to do without mics.
There was an opening act. This was a similar a cappella group, except all females. I gather, from his tweets, that Scott is somehow involved with this other group. Perhaps he is the director. They had a different sound from Pentatonix, though. To me, they sounded more like the jazzy singers I used to hear as a kid. Curiously, they called their lowest singer a bass, though I don't think she would be as low as a male bass.
The other group was called Citizen Queen. I'm not sure how they get away with that, given all the recent focus on the rock group called Queen, which is getting a lot of attention now.
Friday, December 7, 2018
Comparing Freddie Mercury and Adam Lambert
I've been obsessively watching Queen videos since I saw Bohemian Rhapsody. I had been fairly ignorant of them before.
I didn't think I would like them, because I usually like pop/classical crossover -- yet, strangely, I seem to.
I ran across this video comparing Freddie and Adam (who is currently touring with Queen). The guy posting asked for comments, so I offered my two cents. Then I decided to add my comments to this blog.
Adam is a tenor. Freddie was a baritone. Adam is more relaxed on the high notes and does amazing melisma. Freddie was better at capturing an Elvis-like voice -- and put in more different textures and styles. Freddie played instruments, being a more all round musician, while Adam only sings. Freddie was more committed and intense -- but there was also something forced about the way he moved. As I watch him, I see him thinking about how to get the audience's attention, often by being as outrageous as possible. Adam is more relaxed and natural. When Adam went on American Idol, he had already been performing for 20 years. Now it's more like 30. His superior experience shows in his lesser desperation to attract attention. Adam is a more modest dresser than Freddie. Which is curious, because Freddie had this reputation as a shy, private person, while Adam is more confident and relaxed. I note that Adam has gained some weight since this video, which, in a way, is a relief, since Freddie wasted away. I would say that Adam is prettier than Freddy, and softer. You know a lot of this is a matter of taste and timing. If Adam were the dead legend and Freddie were the replacement, people would be saying that Freddie wasn't quite Adam.
I didn't think I would like them, because I usually like pop/classical crossover -- yet, strangely, I seem to.
I ran across this video comparing Freddie and Adam (who is currently touring with Queen). The guy posting asked for comments, so I offered my two cents. Then I decided to add my comments to this blog.
Adam is a tenor. Freddie was a baritone. Adam is more relaxed on the high notes and does amazing melisma. Freddie was better at capturing an Elvis-like voice -- and put in more different textures and styles. Freddie played instruments, being a more all round musician, while Adam only sings. Freddie was more committed and intense -- but there was also something forced about the way he moved. As I watch him, I see him thinking about how to get the audience's attention, often by being as outrageous as possible. Adam is more relaxed and natural. When Adam went on American Idol, he had already been performing for 20 years. Now it's more like 30. His superior experience shows in his lesser desperation to attract attention. Adam is a more modest dresser than Freddie. Which is curious, because Freddie had this reputation as a shy, private person, while Adam is more confident and relaxed. I note that Adam has gained some weight since this video, which, in a way, is a relief, since Freddie wasted away. I would say that Adam is prettier than Freddy, and softer. You know a lot of this is a matter of taste and timing. If Adam were the dead legend and Freddie were the replacement, people would be saying that Freddie wasn't quite Adam.
Tuesday, November 27, 2018
@joshgroban at MSG 11/18/18
Well, I’ve certainly taken my sweet time getting this blog
out. The concert was more than a week
ago. I guess Josh is not as high
priority to me as he used to be. Like right now I'm having a hard time trying to get myself to edit this properly, because I'm watching a documentary about Queen, because I saw "Bohemian Rhapsody" recently. There was a time when I would have had the
blog up the next day after the concert -- even if I had to stay up all night.
But better late than never, I suppose. As usual, I'll likely edit it later.
The concert started early. That was surprising. I thought I had
at least ten minutes before the show would start, so I went to the restroom.
When I came back Idina was already singing.
I wonder if that was planned, or if she was so excited she just
jumped the gun. In retrospect, given that it was Sunday night and a lot of
people, including me, had to go to work on the morning, I wish they had started
at seven.
People started walking out after Qui, during Josh’s set,
presumably because they had to work the next day. I stayed until the end, but it was hard
because I had a 7:30 am call time the next morning and two hours commute each
way. I didn’t get much sleep. People were fleeing the arena before Josh got
offstage after the encore. I don’t think
that was because the concert was bad. I
think it was because they had to work.
Idina
Idina cut a striking figure in a very sparkly jumpsuit. Even
though I was pretty high up, there was no missing her, brightly reflecting the
stage lighting. The outfit seemed to make her look taller. I quickly googled
her height. The search revealed her to be a solidly average 5'4". I was
surprised. I thought she must be a giant.
I was far enough up not to be able to see too clearly, but also
too far forward to see the screens overhead.
I tried to crain my neck to see them, but still couldn’t see her face
clearly.
There was an accordion
pleated curtain behind her on stage where they were projecting her image. It
was strangely distorted by the folds of the curtain. I wished I had brought
binoculars.
Idina was excited to perform at MSG. She had been fantasizing
about it for a long time. She told us that she also fantasized that we would be
charting her name, so some people did. Of course, if she had really hoped for
spontaneous chanting it might have helped not to start early.
She also said she wanted to jump into a mosh pit, but of course
there was none.
She had a rock-like approach to music, though I think the sparkly
jumpsuit puts her in the pop category, right?
I don’t really understand these categories very well. I don’t like them
that much, in general.
Idina sings very loudly. She has a powerful voice. The
amplification was turned up too high as well. I wore ear plugs for most of her
performance.
Idina is a charismatic performer with good vocal technique. She's
very experienced and has had some big hits, like "Defying Gravity"
and "Let it Go-to" which she sang. She moves well. She looked
fabulous in her jumpsuit...
And, yet, I've unfortunately never liked her voice. I don't
understand why Josh likes it. Of course, he doesn't like his own voice.
I saw their Awake duet on YouTube. I didn't like her voice then
either. I did listen to some other YouTube videos of her before the concert and
found some where I did like the sound, and I certainly like her hits, as
recorded, so I was hoping maybe I would like her in person, but, unfortunately,
no.
I even tweeted Josh when he announced that she was touring with
him that I wasn't pleased, not that that would have swayed him. Obviously, he
had already committed and he likes her voice.
But my friends on Bad Grobanites also didn't like her voice, nor
did the person sitting next to me at MSG. I do have one friend who likes her
voice, but that person is not a hard core Grobanite.
There is a reason why she was cast as a witch. Broadway does not
only cast for beautiful voices. They cast for stage presence, for acting
ability, for expressiveness. She certainly has all those things.
Josh
In any case, it is said that the grass is always greener on the
other side. I suppose that's true of Josh as well. He started out very loud, as
if to match Idina. I didn't write down the set list at the time, but I think he
started with "Bigger Than You."
I took the ear plugs out a few times when idina was performing,
but sadly put them back in. I was even sadder to have to put them in when Josh
was singing. Does he really think that people turn to his music to have their
ears blasted out?
It wasn't just me. The person next to me said she wished she had
ear plugs. A friend of mine who saw the concert in Philadelphia said the same.
At some level, he wants to be that loud rock singer. But, Josh,
why not just be you?
Fortunately, some time during the evening, the volume did go down
a bit so I was able to listen to the later part of the concert without
earplugs.
I was interested to watch our usher listening to Josh. You could
see that he was really drawn into the music. He was very focused on the
performance. I talked to him afterwards. He said he hadn't seen Josh before, he
thought Josh was good, and that it was nice to hear some more laid back music,
because the crowds at the other shows tended to get drunk and rowdy.
On the whole, I thought Josh did well. His technique only
improves with time, especially since he apparently changed voice coaches.
Curiously, he went nasal on the older songs, Oceano and Alla Luce, as if they
somehow took him back into some old pattern.
I was sad that he didn't play drums or accordion, but he did play
piano, across the arena on a smaller stage. During the first song over there,
she's always a woman, I didn't figure out what had happened. I could see him on
the screen, but not on the stage. Then I figured it out. He's done this before.
I felt dumb not to figure it out right away.
I did get to see him run back, which was nice. He shook several
hands along the way. It was rumored that on this tour he didn't do his usual
appearances at the buses for autographs. This was allegedly because he has
received so many death threats. It's so sad how celebrities attract whackos and
no one seems to be able to do anything about it. Of course, I've encountered
several of them in Josh's twitter following.
He does, in principle, like hanging around with fans, I think, if
they don't grope him or grab him, but, obviously, death threats are another
matter. So, at least with this setup, he gets to shake a few hands
The Awake DVD showed him running back and forth for his entire
show. I recall him saying, when he was younger, that he liked to practice
singing while running on a treadmill. Now the running is much curtailed, but he
got to do a little of it. I wonder if that's connected with him getting older.
Also, he said in one interview that he's had knee surgery.
It's hard to think of young Josh getting older, but, really,
we're around the twentieth anniversary of David Foster discovering him. Hard to
wrap my mind around that.
I don't so much want him to play drums because of his drumming
skills, but because he's fun to watch when he plays. He gets so into it. You
don't get to where Josh is without having that X Factor, and that means that
he's fun to watch. Other drummers might have more skill, but they're not him.
Another notable omission was "Symphony." That was the
first single Josh released on this latest album. It also seemed to be the most
personal, about his struggles with balancing his career, which involves a lot
of travel, and his love life. I liked that song. But maybe it was too fresh for
him. I suspected that was why he wouldn't sing "Love Only Knows" from
the "Illuminations" album: a song that obviously grew out of a
painful situation that perhaps he didn't feel comfortable singing in front of
an audience.
I do hope that Josh does eventually write a symphony. I feel he's
got it in him, the talent, the skill, and the musical maturity. I feel he would
write a really interesting piece. Symphonies aren't hit songs, I don't think. I
don't know if anyone ever got rich writing a symphony. It's about making a
musical statement. I hope he'll do it.
I was afraid that the "Bridges" album signaled a change
in Josh, away from his tendency towards experimental, fusion music into
conventional pop. But, in concert, it turned out ok. I heard a lot of exotic sounds,
the sort I normally expect from Josh, a lot of musical complexity. That was a
relief to me. He hasn't sold out.
Jennifer Nettles visited. I gather she wasn't at the other
concerts. When they said there would be a special guest, I was hoping for Lucia,
who I saw performing in NYC the week before, but, no. That's just over, I
guess. I miss Ruslan as well, and that Asian drummer who calls himself
"Tao of Sound."
Jennifer sings quite low. Josh tends to sing high a lot. I find
it unfortunate that we seem to admire men who sing high and women who sing low,
ironically as if we want our singers to be slightly trans or something.
Unfortunately, the result is that when Josh and Jennifer sing together it's
sometimes hard to tell who is singing.
Of course, they sang "99 Years," the duet they sang on
the album. That's a nice peppy song, but, really, Josh, outside of the Book of
Genesis, I don't think couples live long enough to be married 99 years. Perhaps
it would be better to be satisfied with our natural lifetime.
Mark Stephens has cut his hair. That made me a bit sad also. I
don't know if that was what made him look older or whether he just really has
aged a lot. Uncomfortable reminder of my own mortality
There was something odd about the screen behind Josh. While Idina had a curtain that broke up the
projected image of her rather chaotically, Josh had a flat screen. However, the projected image was partially
blocked at the top by the stage lighting, which meant that one often couldn’t
see his face on the screen, at least from the nose bleed seats where I was
sitting. I could see his chest and shoulders just fine. If they had projected him just a bit lower I
could have seen his face more often.
Josh wore a velvet jacket.
I think this was the only time he did that on this tour. I gather that the performance was being
recorded for a possible DVD. I could see a robot arm moving a camera around the
stage during much of the performance.
Apparently, he dressed up for that – though a velvet jumpsuit seems out
of character for him, to me. Idina
changed from her sparkling jumpsuit to a velvet jumpsuit during their duets so
that they would be coordinated – albeit in different colors. Josh’s jacket was dark blue, while Idina’s
jumpsuit was beige. Actually, I couldn’t
tell from my vantage point whether Josh’s jacket was velvet or satin. It was Idina who pointed out that it was
velvet. I wonder about depicting Josh
for posterity in this foppish jacket, when he much prefers to dress casually.
At one point, Josh had people turn on their cell phone lights
around the arena. That’s a very pretty
effect, but when I really looked at the distance between the lights it seemed
that most people didn’t comply. I wonder
why. Batteries low? Don’t know how to
turn on their cell phone flashlight? Don’t like to be ordered around from
state? It left me wondering what MSG
would have looked like if in fact every one had turned on their cell phone light.
Josh had to ask people in front to sit down at one point, because
he feared that view of those in back would be obscured. He mentioned that there
was no mosh pit also. Perhaps he really needs one. Some fans do want to stand during the
performance.
I tried to write down all the songs afterwards, with some help
from other fans. This isn’t in order,
but I think this was the list of songs Josh sang or played
Songs
Bigger than us
Musica del Corazon
Bring him home
To where you are
You raise me up
Bridge over troubled water
Qui
Alla luce
pure imagination
lullaby (with Idina)
Falling slowly (with Idina)
oceano
Granted
River
99 years
Won't look back
you are loved
She's always a woman to me
Wandering kind
99 years (with Jennifer)
Here are some tweet images that I sent out during and after the concert:
Here are some tweet images that I sent out during and after the concert:
This was the next day. Idina made a remark that she should be excused for swearing because she's 47, married twice, and gave birth to a child. She suggested that parents just cover their kids' ears. I disagree
This was before the concert. There was a time when I knew that Josh was reading my tweets to him, so I still sometimes write to him as if he were reading. You never know. He might.
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